In this episode, Jean describes how her family’s Secret Santa for adults has made the holiday season less stressful and more enjoyable for everyone. James talks about using his trusted system to keep track of gift ideas throughout the year. Jean and James discuss giving experiences instead of things—especially shared experiences like going to a concert or show. Conversation turns to the belated celebration of James’ garage-iversary as well as the practice of receiving a stocking filled with gifts or goodies.
242: Clandestine Saint Nick
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